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 Post subject: Early songs-recorded or not?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:13 am 

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Outside

"Seems the time is near for finding a place outside
Seems the time is here for holding the window wide
So I'm going to try
To open up one eye
But if the world is too wide
I'll be home to hide
Keep it warm inside, if it's strange, outside.

Seems the time has flown, when we lived inside a cloud
Seems the time has gone, when nothing we said was out loud
Going to find a word
Make myself be heard
But if the world is too loud
I'll be home from the crowd
Keep it soft inside, if it's strange, outside.

Seems the time has come for banging our feet to the ground
Seems the time has come to see if the world is round
Sweep the smoke away
Reach the earth today
But if the world is all wrong
I won't be staying long
Keep it cool inside, if it's strange, outside."


These are lyrics to a song Nick wrote but didn't record, I assume. At least I've never heard it but the lyrics indicate the same recurring themes of loneliness and isolation, trepidation and vulnerability. Would like to know when this was written, if it was ever put to music or recorded somewhere.


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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 2:08 pm 

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Don't know if Nick has recorded it. I found an Italian, who performs it, maybe with his own melody: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXB9x_k0oU8
I also visited a Nick Drake-tribute some years ago during which the lyrics were performed in a song called If It's Strange Outside.

Personally I don't find these lyrics typical for Nick. They are a lot more direct than usual, less poetic at times.


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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 11:06 pm 

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Yes, but maybe it was written earlier on before Nick further developed his poetic and lyrical chops. It also employs the technique Nick sometimes used in repeating the last line of a chorus and changing just one word such as in
"Poor Boy" and "Made to Love Magic" respectively:
1. Nobody knows how cold it grows, flows, blows.
2. Many many years ago.
Many many dreams ago.
Many many deaths ago.
In that sense it would be interesting/helpful to know when the lyrics were penned. I think it is fascinating to follow the course of an artist's development from early false starts to later masterpiece.

Aside: I always thought the lyric in Poor Boy was:
"How steep my stares" rather than stairs and "when I cross their styles" rather than stiles. The lyric just makes more sense to me that way because friends had mentioned he would stare without moving or communicating and his lyric "much outdated style" from Fruit Tree.


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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 9:17 pm 

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lostmusic wrote:
Outside

"Seems the time is near for finding a place outside
Seems the time is here for holding the window wide
So I'm going to try
To open up one eye
But if the world is too wide
I'll be home to hide
Keep it warm inside, if it's strange, outside.

Seems the time has flown, when we lived inside a cloud
Seems the time has gone, when nothing we said was out loud
Going to find a word
Make myself be heard
But if the world is too loud
I'll be home from the crowd
Keep it soft inside, if it's strange, outside.

Seems the time has come for banging our feet to the ground
Seems the time has come to see if the world is round
Sweep the smoke away
Reach the earth today
But if the world is all wrong
I won't be staying long
Keep it cool inside, if it's strange, outside."


These are lyrics to a song Nick wrote but didn't record, I assume. At least I've never heard it but the lyrics indicate the same recurring themes of loneliness and isolation, trepidation and vulnerability. Would like to know when this was written, if it was ever put to music or recorded somewhere.


Very sad lyric, but it is also quite "positive".. It reflects that he actually wanted happy days and to see the world (I know I write bad english), but is holding back.. "Seems the time has flown, when we lived inside a cloud", I think this is a metaphor for getting older.. When you're young, when is natural to live at home etc etc the world is safe and it's like your living in a bubble/cloud, with no worries.. "Sweep the smoke away
Reach the earth today", may reflect that he knew smoking pot kept him more isolated and antisocial (which it does to many).. I mean, he was a reflected man, and he knew what was going on, but he couldn't bare it, and I understand that.. Time is strange...
Sorry for writing bad english, don't really feel I could express myself too good..


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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 5:23 am 

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I find it more sad than positive because he knows it is time to move from the safety of home and confront the world but has the expectation that it will be too wide, too loud and all wrong. It sounds like resignation. He'll try but he has a game plan if it's all too much and he needs to escape. Wonder if this was written after he had returned to Far Leys because he "couldn't bare it anywhere else"; if he wanted to give it another try in London, but didn't really trust the world to be a safe place. The line "if the world is all wrong, I won't be staying long" is a little ominous to me.

He starts by saying he'll hide at home and to keep it warm, but ends by saying he won't be staying long and to keep it cool. It's warm in one's home, safe and snug but it's cool deep in the earth. Does he mean he won't be staying long in this world? Is that a metaphor for suicide?

If we knew when his songs were written, rather than just when they were recorded, we might have a clearer picture of his mindset over his last few years.
(don't need to apologize for your English, Idon'tknow :). you expressed yourself just fine).

BTW, the youtube music sounds like it could be Nick's. It is soft and melodic.
Nossuri, was the music the same at the tribute as in the youtube?


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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 7:05 pm 

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lostmusic wrote:
BTW, the youtube music sounds like it could be Nick's. It is soft and melodic.
Nossuri, was the music the same at the tribute as in the youtube?


I just checked it, but although both soft and melodic, they don't have the same melody. I like Pino Marino's elektric piano, but Johan Leugs is closer to Nick's music, because he's playing the acoustic guitar, while his melody has some daring melody-voicings for a ballad (with an almost jazz-like note-choice).
(See this post for more information on the tribute-night.)


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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 8:17 pm 

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I just checked it, but although both soft and melodic, they don't have the same melody. I like Pino Marino's elektric piano, but Johan Leugs is closer to Nick's music, because he's playing the acoustic guitar, while his melody has some daring melody-voicings for a ballad (with an almost jazz-like note-choice).
(See this post for more information on the tribute-night.)


Do you have a copy or a link where I can listen to the music used for "Outside" at the tribute concert by Johan Leugs? I was not able to find it checking your post from 2007. Would love to listen and compare the two. And does anyone know for sure if the music Nick Drake actually wrote for that song exists anywhere?
What about another song where the lyrics are listed but not the musical accompaniment, such as "Mickey's Tune":

[i]Sailing in seas of forget-me-not
Joining the race for the sun
Following baits made of daisy-chains
The new life has now begun.

So go your way and I'll follow
Just lead the way.

Drifting in lights of the fairground
Floating away on the breeze
Dazzled by scenes of a merry go round
You take the air with such ease.

So go your way and I'll follow
Just lead the way.

Dancing to midsummer nightsongs
Sprayed by the warmth of the rain
Blurred in the heat of a landscape
Fly to the moon once again.

So go your way and I'll follow on the breeze
Float with such ease
Lead the way.


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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 7:23 pm 

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Googling leads to this page for more lyrics:
http://www.algonet.se/~iguana/DRAKE/NDunrel.html


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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 7:29 pm 

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B.t.w. Mickey's Tune and other lyrics are being discussed in an article from Ian MacDonald (I don't know if it's a part of his book).


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Lostmusic: have you checked your PM?


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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 6:11 am 

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Lostmusic: have you checked your PM?

Thanks for asking!! I did and have responded. :)
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Googling leads to this page for more lyrics:
http://www.algonet.se/~iguana/DRAKE/NDunrel.html

Yes, that's the site where I found the lyrics to the "unreleased songs".
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B.t.w. Mickey's Tune and other lyrics are being discussed in an article from Ian MacDonald (I don't know if it's a part of his book).

I believe I've read this article before, but I'll read it again to catch discussion of these lesser known songs and lyrics.

All your sharing is much appreciated!!


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