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BerwickDrake

Joined: 13 Apr 2011 Posts: 103 Location: Berwick-upon-Tweed
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:45 pm Post subject: Nick Drake The Movie |
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In my opinion its just a matter of time before someone makes an autobiographical/semi-autobigraphical film on the life/death and times of our dear Nicholas.
First things first , I hope its not a big overblown american style thing. Dont mean to offend any of our american counterparts but their style wouldnt suit Nicks story.
Secondly the soundtrack to the movie need to take in everything and not just play on 'River Man' and 'Northern Sky' we'd need to hear the influence of others on Nick Fairport Convention, John Martyn, Dylan, Graham Bond.
Furthermore it needs to be gritty, harsh, upsetting and realistic not glossy and all cliched.
what are peoples thoughts?? _________________ "But the man is me, yes , and the girl is you" |
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Seran

Joined: 02 May 2010 Posts: 312 Location: London
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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I must say that I am rather surprised this has not already happened - although I'm sure I read somewhere that the main obstruction has been Gabrielle who has not/will not give consent (I may have that wrong - but I'm certain I saw that somewhere).
I personally think it could be a moving and meaningful film because depression is such a nasty illness to which Nick, who seemingly had everything going for him, succumbed.
Benedict Cumberbatch would be my choice for the lead (and he has already said he'd like to do it).
Music would be interesting. I don't think the general soundtrack should be exclusively Nick's work - his songs should only be used when portraying performances etc. And of course you could include influences and peers (John Martyn would surely be a raunchy role!).
I could go on - but I'm at work
It must surely be done at some point - and hopefully soon! _________________ I have stolen a man
but never a thing of value
I roll up the bamboo blind
Suzuki Masajo |
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BerwickDrake

Joined: 13 Apr 2011 Posts: 103 Location: Berwick-upon-Tweed
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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I think the way Nicks legacy has been handled thus far by first his mother and father and now gabrielle is a fine example to many of the other relatives of talented artists who have passed away.
The likes of Cobain, Hendrix, Ronnie Lane their reputation hasnt been helped by substandard often unauthorised shit thats been put out.
The John Martyn role would cetainly be intresting, Paddy considine is a supremely talented actor who would maybe be suitable for a such a role.
I agree whole heartedly that it could possibly be ana mazing soundtrack the likes of Donovan, Sandy Denny, Fairport Convention, Graham Bond, John Martyn, John Renbourn etc
Wish i had a budget i could change the world..
Im also at work and bored out of my skull with this 9 to 5 dirge im goign insane _________________ "But the man is me, yes , and the girl is you" |
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Seran

Joined: 02 May 2010 Posts: 312 Location: London
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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Why is my text appearing as 'Cumberbund'!!! I wrote 'C u m b e r b a t c h' ! _________________ I have stolen a man
but never a thing of value
I roll up the bamboo blind
Suzuki Masajo
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Seran

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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Now that is very silly  _________________ I have stolen a man
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Nossuri
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Seran

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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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I actually did spell Benedict's surname correctly - but for some rather bizarre reason it appears as something different! Maybe Matt can help  _________________ I have stolen a man
but never a thing of value
I roll up the bamboo blind
Suzuki Masajo |
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Matt (admin)
Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 641 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:21 am Post subject: |
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There's a word censor list dating back to the early days of the forum when we got lots of spam postings. Basically, if someone tries to type anything dodgy it changes it. I'd give you an example but they'd both display the same so there's no point
In this instance the first syllable of Benedict's name is a word often used in spam postings (use your imagination) and the censor picked it up as a part of the word. I've deleted that now so all should be fine!
Cumberbatch, Cumberbatch, Cumberbatch - see  |
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Nossuri
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Seran wrote: | | I actually did spell Benedict's surname correctly |
Yeah, I know. I'm convinced you also did that in that other thread, but looking back at it, it looks that after you were corrected by another poster you thought you had mistyped it initially. |
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BerwickDrake

Joined: 13 Apr 2011 Posts: 103 Location: Berwick-upon-Tweed
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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whats your opinions on an inevitable life story production matt? _________________ "But the man is me, yes , and the girl is you" |
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Matt (admin)
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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Not sure I see the point really. I wouldn't want to see a fictionalised version of Nick on the big screen - it wouldn't add anything to the music. Sure you could make a great soundtrack from all the wonderful 60s/70s acoustic music around at the time but I can't see how it would work as a piece of storytelling. Aside from anything else you'd have to make up a fair amount of character stuff.
I have no problem with 'biopic' style films as such, there have been some great movies based on real life events ('World's Fastest Indian' is a good example) but I just can't see the appeal in a film about Nick.
For me a film (or any form of storytelling) has to first & foremost illuminate an aspect of human existence and either tell us something we know about life or remind us of something we'd forgotten. I reckon you'd have to substantially alter the course of Nick's life to make it cinematic (as opposed to just atmospheric).
Just my thoughts - I'm happy with the music Nick left us. I'll never know what he was like as a person and no film could ever tell me that (plus it doesn't really matter). |
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JoeChrisMorris
Joined: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 692 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:35 am Post subject: |
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nothing really happened in Nicks career until after he died,is the rub _________________ "and in the end the love you take is equal to the love you make" |
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BerwickDrake

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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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JoeChrisMorris , less of the bullshit please
Nicks story is very relevant in todays world of throw away talentless shit that make millions and sell millions despite their extreme lack of talent _________________ "But the man is me, yes , and the girl is you" |
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Matt (admin)
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| BerwickDrake wrote: | | JoeChrisMorris , less of the bullshit please |
What bullshit, I didn't spot any! I think he's right - nothing much did happen in Nick's career before he died. Nick was a brilliant talent and recorded (for me) three of the best albums ever. It's a shame he wasn't recognised in his own lifetime and it's brilliant that he is recognised now. Does that make for a compelling story that clamours for a cinematic treatment? I'm not sure it does.
For me there's no point in a Nick Drake film just for the sake of a film about Nick Drake. |
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JoeChrisMorris
Joined: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 692 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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I don't reckon any film footage of Nick has ever turned up
Maybe theres some of him at school in Cambridge (at least according to old issues of Pynk Moon) but theres not much of a story because Nick didn't really do very much
Aside from recording 3 fantastic albums!
Also, whats a film gonna contain, Joe Boyd poking him with a fork to get to Sound Techniques studio because he wanted him to put "Things behind the sun" down on tape for John Wood? Or tales of Muff Winwood of Island
trying to get him to go to a tv appearance
Theres not much there _________________ "and in the end the love you take is equal to the love you make" |
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