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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:01 am    Post subject: Nick on John Peel Show Reply with quote

For anyone who has not heard this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeTnC1DSYhg&feature=related
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was this actually ever aired? I seem to remember reading that it wasn't. Great performance of Three Hours I must say.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it was.

You're probably getting confused with other radio shows the Witchseason PR people booked which Nick didn't turn up for.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was broadcast and John Peel's voice can be heard.

Complete details are as follows:

BBC RADIO: JOHN PEEL SESSION – London 5th August 1969 Five tracks were recorded (BBC Session form from this recording / broadcast DOES exist)

Time Of No Reply (0.58) Time Has Told Me: Volume 2
Three Hours (3.01) Time Has Told Me: Volume 2
Cello Song Tape no longer exists ?
River Man Tape no longer exists ?
Unknown 5th track …...……. possibly Plaisir d’Amour (?) Tape no longer exists ?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that we can be reasonably sure that the whole session exists............................................somewhere Smile
Time will tell...........oh, think i've heard that somewhere Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was some activity on this around 3 years ago with claims that a pristine copy of the Peel session tape had been discovered:
http://www.nickdrake.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=4571

And this guy posting on another forum back in 2008 claims that the place where he works has a copy of the 1970 BBC2 session ('Nightride'):
http://www.headheritage.co.uk/headtohead/unsung/topic/39607/threaded/583093

There was talk of negotiations to release them at the time.. I don't know whether there's a moratorium on new Nick releases, whether they feel the barrel has been scraped enough with things like Family Tree, but if it's true that these sessions do exist on tape then it's a shame that fans don't get to hear them.

I think there's room for one more disc to complete the archives, Nick Drake 'in session' with these 2 BBC recordings (which would be something around 12 tracks) maybe coupled with a couple of selections from that Caius College live tape, if anything from it is releasable - I believe the percieved quality of the performance was the stumbling block with that one.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hm. I remember the business with Eliot about three years ago that vanished into thin air, but didn't know about the other.

I am nonplussed and don't know whether or not these are complete hoaxes or perhaps may have some credence.

They sound legitimate; but it is easy to sound legitimate; and quite a bit is to be gained by the random posting of such notices.


Time will tell.
Though it might be a bit of time.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You cynic Arthur Laughing

No, i'm quite sure the Elliot thing was scuppered by the estate but am quietly confident that the JP session does exist in it's entirety.
Put it this way, if it were me working for the BBC, and i'm sure there was or still is a like minded soul there, somewhere, then i'd have made damn sure that at least a copy survived. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Lost Buoy you speak about such things confidently as if you had inside knowledge? Is that so, or just...?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, there's some consolation - mainly due to the publication of Jason's book, The Pink Moon Files; it's revealed that the two other tracks from the Aug '69 session do, in fact, exist in full in this home-recorded version.

The guy who recorded it let just a handful of tapes out containing only '...Reply' and 'Hours' back in the late-nineties for review purposes. The two other tracks are simply not circulating (yet)...

All this information was included in only the 1st hardback edition of Patrick Humphries' biography in 1997; it was subsequently removed from all future editions for reasons we can only guess at, although Humphries did give the guy's full name.

So it seems the chap is still sat on them. Who knows...there may even be some of the dialogue between Nick and John Peel present on the tape but that is, alas, pure speculation.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

See what I mean? I love a good conspiracy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Time of no reply, Cello song, River man, Three hours
are the titles listed in the Peel Sessions book (Ken Garner)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Third Wave wrote:
Who knows...there may even be some of the dialogue between Nick and John Peel present on the tape but that is, alas, pure speculation.


I thought Nick had done a pre-record and John just played the tracks...?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems not...

There are several 'Nightride' John Peel shows from '68/'69 circulating, virtually all of which feature Peel talking with whoever is in session that evening. I have the May 7th show which includes Ivor Cutler and on listening carefully you can hear that it 'switches' to Ivor's session track once him and Peel stop chatting.

Further to that, in Tim Clements' BBC doc from 1999, one of the Island Record guys (name escapes me at present, sorry) recalls Nick appearing on John Peel's show and Peel talking to Nick.

It would appear that the proceedure for this show was to pre-record the tracks a day before and then attend the live broadcast - there's probably documentation somewhere that backs this up.

The writer Iain Sinclair appeared on the same show with Nick. He writes a short piece about it in London: City Of Disappearances' (Hamish Hamilton books, 2006). And, yep, Iain DID have his own tape of the show but lost it!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

" Nick appearing on John Peel's show and Peel talking to Nick"

Now that would be a coup! I wonder whether, somewhere on this planet, a recording of this exists!
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